Just as hetero men are "held responsible" for women's body image issues, hetero women should be "held responsible" for men's self-destructive and macho behaviour
 Just as hetero men are "held responsible" for women's body image issues, hetero women should be "held responsible" for men's self-destructive and macho behaviour stories
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First up, I'm not suggesting any kind of legal or otherwise tangible accountability. I mean within the discourse, women's romantic preferences should be acknowledged as a contributing factor to the problem of men's macho behaviour.
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Just as hetero men are "held responsible" for women's body image issues, hetero women should be "held responsible" for men's self-destructive and macho behaviour

by smithedition

First up, I'm not suggesting any kind of legal or otherwise tangible accountability.

I mean within the discourse, women's romantic preferences should be acknowledged as a contributing factor to the problem of men's macho behaviour.

Basically, it seems to me that in discussions about the female body image crisis men's sexual preferences for skinny and unrealistic female bodies are named as a contributing factor.

It seems to me that the reasoning goes something like: "Women are starving themselves because they think (rightly or wrongly) that that's what men want"

Well, it seems to me that men are suffering in another area of life due to their perception of what women want: road traffic deaths/injuries.

The [World Health Organisation states](http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs358/en/) that:

>From a young age, males are more likely to be involved in road traffic crashes than females. About three-quarters (73%) of all road traffic deaths occur among men.

Among young drivers, young males under the age of 25 years are almost 3 times as likely to be killed in a car crash as young females.

I don't think it's controversial to deduce that driving dangerously is usually an act of bravado which in itself is a manifestation of the "macho" culture that many young men consider

is essential to making themselves appealing to the opposite sex.

Potential counterarguments:

* **"Well, women aren't actually impressed by or attracted to aggressive or macho behaviour"** -- Yeah, well some are. Just like some men are attracted to skinny girls.

But the problem is that each gender has a warped sense of what the other wants.

So if women's misguided belief that they need to look a certain way is pinned on men, then men's misguided belief that they need to *behave* a certain way should be pinned on ~~men~~ women.

* **"Women aren't starving themselves for men,

they're chasing body image ideals to impress other women"** -- I've never bought this argument (which I've also seen deployed in discussions about why women wear make-up,

expensive clothes etc). Sure, maybe consciously a lot of women want to look "good" to impress other women.

But I would argue that their entire conception of "what looks good" and "what is feminine" is intrinsically informed by what men find attractive.

Similarly with why men drive fast and generally act like macho idiots.

A group of lads might be hooning around the streets of your local town on a Saturday night without a woman in the car to impress,

but the driver is displaying braggadocio to the other men in order to establish himself as the dominant member of the group.

His method of attempting to display dominance (aggressive driving, macho behaviour) is informed by what he thinks is appealing to women.

So what do I want?

As I said in the first paragraph, I'm not saying we should scorn women for this in any tangible way.

I'm simply saying that it should be acknowledged as a part of the problem of young male aggression in the way that male sexual preferences are frequently identified as a part of

the body image problem among women. In recent years, I think many men would have experienced a backlash from "female-body-ideal-non-conforming" women when commenting on the attractiveness of a

"female-body-ideal-**conforming**" woman.

Women who express attraction to or admiration for men engaging in dangerous macho behaviour should face the same public disapproval in the same way that men who like "skinny" women do.

Just as men are being "educated" through the public discourse on embracing "real women" (ie with curves and "female-body-ideal-non-conforming" body types),

women should be "educated" through public discourse on embracing men who display "male-behavioural-ideal-non-conforming" behaviours.

CMV

Edit: As indicated by strikethrough and a few other words for clarity

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