America is not exceptional bastion of freedom anymore
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A comedian once said something along the lines: I don't get why everyone here is so excited and proud about American freedom. Like yeah, we got freedom. But so does almost everybody else. America is free, sure. So is UK. Canada is free. France is free. Germany is free. Australia and New Zealand are free. Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Italy, Spain are free. Japan is free.
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America is not exceptional bastion of freedom anymore

by This_The_Last_Time

A comedian once said something along the lines: I don't get why everyone here is so excited and proud about American freedom. Like yeah, we got freedom. But so does almost everybody else.

America is free, sure. So is UK. Canada is free. France is free. Germany is free. Australia and New Zealand are free. Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Italy, Spain are free. Japan is free.

Belgium is free. So get over it.

EDIT: This was the clip I was thinking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw

I agree with him. I understand that in 18th and 19th century USA was exceptional compared to the rest of the world. I understand the historical perspective.

But that is not case anymore, has not been in a long while, but still, to this day, Americans spout their freedom-liturgy in news and politics to the annoyance of the rest of the world.

I feel like many Americans still believe in that their country is exceptional is some freedom-index, and therefore superior, but I disagree.

What freedoms Americans have that rest of the developed world does not? Speech? Nope. Religion? No-no. I can only think of that your laws about carrying guns are more lenient than elsewhere.

But many countries have freedoms Americans do not.

An example: Freedom of movement in nature.

In Nordic countries (where I am from) everyone can go to public forests and hang around there, making camp, picking up berries and mushrooms or firewood,

and as long as you do not disturb others or nature, it is your right to be there. As I am aware, this is not a thing in USA, but very much a basic freedom here in Nordic countries.

If there is a forest or a hill, you are allowed to go there and stay. No one will threaten to shoot you for doing so.

Another example: Political freedom. USA is a two-party system. You can vote for other parties too, but in reality your political leaders and lawmakers always come from either party.

You either vote one of them, or whoever you voted is not elected. Many other countries are not two-party systems.

If either/none of the current parties appease you or fit your agenda, you can vote for a third (or fourth, or fifth,

or sixth) party and chances are they can become big enough to get into the government.

There are many recent examples of this, former fringe-parties gaining popularity with changing times and gaining responsibility for the country too. In USA this is only theoretical possibility.

Like in some former communist countries, where you could vote, but if you did not vote the party favored candidate, you vote did not actually matter and your candidate did not get elected.

One more example: Freedom to use drugs recreationally. Netherlands (where my brother-in-law is from) is the classic example.

You want to smoke weed without getting arrested? Go ahead, in Netherlands there are many places you can do so. In USA prisons are full of drug-users.

Also the big thing is the American dream. But American dream has not been true or exceptional for many, many years.

It is less true in America than many other places, as USA's social mobility is in fact, low.

If you are American you are less likely to change your social position by hard work, than in many other developed countries. Not more likely, less.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_mobility#/media/File:Social_mobility_is_lower_in_more_unequal_countries.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_mobility#/media/File:Intergenerational_mobility_graph-1.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socio-economic_mobility_in_the_United_States#/media/File:The_Great_Gatsby_Curve.png

So, you know, America is fine. Good on freedoms, not bad on social mobility. Before you guys were exemplary, now the rest of the world has caught up.

So, can we please tone down the rhetoric a bit? CMV!

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