Aborting fetuses that would be born with debilitating diseases is good for society
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This CMV is largely due to seeing a video posted on facebook--It's a video in which a young woman with Down's Syndrome, Charlotte Helene Fien, addresses the UN to oppose the abortion of fetuses that test for a variety of debilitating diseases in utero.
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Aborting fetuses that would be born with debilitating diseases is good for society

by shartweekondvd

This CMV is largely due to seeing a video posted on facebook--It's a video in which a young woman with Down's Syndrome, Charlotte Helene Fien,

addresses the UN to oppose the abortion of fetuses that test for a variety of debilitating diseases in utero.

In the video, she states how she and her friends with Down's are completely normal (simply different) and live very fulfilling lives.

And for these reasons, she compares this to the systemic eradication of disabled people by the Nazis.

In fact she goes so far to state, "don't allow this test, if you allow it, you are no better than the Nazis".

So first and foremost, it's very apparent through her eloquence and delivery of her speech that she is an extremely high functioning person with Down's.

I know that Down's is technically a black and white diagnosis, but it of course manifests with differing levels of severity, of which she seems to be on the milder end of that spectrum.

Furthermore, Down's itself is a mental impairment that allows for a high level of normality in the patients' and caregivers' lives.

These tests that she's alluding to don't only test for Down's, but rather for a wide spectrum of disorders, many of which are severely debilitating to the baby,

as well as life-altering for the parents.

I think that her speech has a variety of rebuttals that one can bring up,

such as the fact that many people would argue that the systemic slaughter of children and adults is not at all on the same plane as abortions, or that she's completely ignoring the other,

more severe impairments for which the tests check,

or simply that it should be the parent's choice at the end of the day whether or not they want to commit themselves to a life of caring for a child with a mental disorder.

While valid arguments, I want to focus on the fact that aborting babies with debilitating disorders will make the human race, in short, better.

I know that Down's isn't necessarily the best example for this, because in many cases it is not inherited, however many of the disorders being tested for are.

I might be wrong on this (so call me out if I am, I mean, I'm no biologist) but it would seem that selective pressures would eventually eradicate such disorders from the gene pool altogether.

Furthermore, in terms of society,

both the people themselves as well as the caregivers for people with debilitating mental impairments are often not afforded the ability to be totally productive members of society.

This might sound harsh, but I mean simply that there is both a person being cared for, who cannot contribute to society,

as well as a person whose (often at least secondary if not) primary occupation is to care for this person.

This takes two people who are effectively not able to contribute to society, yet are using the variety resources that welfare states provide to its citizens.

This is especially relevant because the states that are aborting all fetuses with mental impairments are countries like Denmark and Iceland--very much welfare states.

Eliminating this scenario from society would, albeit perhaps minimally, improve the functioning of the society as a whole.

To end, I know a lot of this comes across as pretty harsh. I don't even agree with myself 100%, but I am curious as to how y'all will CMV. Thanks!

Edit: to everyone telling me "I'm agreeing with Hitler", you clearly are missing my argument.

It's largely centers around the fact that abortion is in no way in the same plane (at least in my opinion, and if you want to CMV on this, feel free,

but an ethical argument on abortion isn't what I came here for) as the systemic massacre of men, women, and children.

I am simply saying that these tests can be used as a tool to potentially improve society.

Thanks for all the comments and discussion, I didn't even totally agree with myself to begin with, just wanted to see what the counter arguments would be.

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